newyorkcityballet2b Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Do you need do have a high instep "the bump" and great turnout to get into companies? Quote Link to comment
Administrators Victoria Leigh Posted October 17, 2008 Administrators Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 nycb2b, I just looked at your previous posts, and you clearly described to someone else what is needed for a professional dancer. Living in NY, and having done a summer at SAB, I think you know what a dancer looks like. Quote Link to comment
newyorkcityballet2b Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 I didn't go to SAB. I went to ABT and Joffrey. Quote Link to comment
Administrators Victoria Leigh Posted October 17, 2008 Administrators Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Okay, both of those would provide the same ability to know what a dancer is supposed to look like. Quote Link to comment
newyorkcityballet2b Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Ok, but do you need to have those two things? Quote Link to comment
Administrators Victoria Leigh Posted October 17, 2008 Administrators Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Here are your words from March of this year: "Also, ballet is not easy.You cant just start and be great. You have to be flexible, have a good arch and have the body. The body is the long neck, flat chest, hipless, muscullar. If you dont have that youre not getting anywhere. Its going to take a few years before you can go on pointe and develop the ballet body and get into companies. Its going to take a looooooong time." And yes, having a very good foot and good turnout is necessary for a classical dancer. Quote Link to comment
newyorkcityballet2b Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Ok thank you I don't have good turnout. =( Does that mean I can't be a dancer? Quote Link to comment
Administrators Victoria Leigh Posted October 17, 2008 Administrators Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 You are 13. Do you think you have reached your limit and will not improve any more in your rotation, and learn to use it much better as well? If so, then yes, it would mean you probably won't be a dancer. However, I would hope that you still have a lot of room for improvement. Besides that, without seeing you, no one can tell you whether you can or cannot be a dancer. Quote Link to comment
newyorkcityballet2b Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 My hips are not settled. I havent gone through puberty yet. And, who are you to tell me i cannot be a dancer? I could be a beautiful dancer without turnout. Not every dancer is perfect. please reply to this Quote Link to comment
Mel Johnson Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 But you cannot be a classical ballet dancer without turnout. Ms. Leigh and I can give you the benefit of long experience with teaching students and having them work professionally in ballet. That's who we are and how we know what makes a ballet dancer or not. Quote Link to comment
Administrators Victoria Leigh Posted October 17, 2008 Administrators Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Excuse me??? You asked. I did not tell you that you cannot be a dancer. Read my post again. I clearly said that only if there was no further improvement, meaning that at 13, there certainly should be room for a lot of improvement and a whole lot better usage of the rotation you have and will develop. No, not every dancer is perfect. In fact, what is perfect? I don't think I know anyone who is perfect. Dancers are always always always striving to be better, not only as students, but throughout their career. I also said that we cannot tell you anything positive or negative without seeing you. As far as who I am, just google me and you will find out. And, the next time you speak to me like that, you will be history here on Ballet Talk for Dancers. Quote Link to comment
newyorkcityballet2b Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 ok i misunderstood. Im sorry. Well, is there anyway to fix turnout once your hips are not settled? Quote Link to comment
Administrators Victoria Leigh Posted October 17, 2008 Administrators Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 You learn to use the rotation that you have from your hips to the very best of your ability, meanwhile continuing to work on improving it. I'm not sure what you mean by "settle", but I think you mean that you have not finished growing. This is actually the very best time to work on increasing the rotation you have, and working what you have to your very best ability. This would involve understanding correct alignment and weight placement, and how to use your buttocks muscles as well as the abs and all the other muscles involved in standing up and turning out! Quote Link to comment
DanaD Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Question!! Don't Shoot!! So, is good turn out about 160 degrees or so? I am nearly close to having natural "180" turn out, but not quite, and I am NEVER going to force it. Quote Link to comment
Administrators Victoria Leigh Posted October 18, 2008 Administrators Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Not shooting, Dana I really don't think about rotation in terms of degrees. I look at the dancer and see how well she/he uses the rotation they have and if the lines are good. If they are not good, I look for the potential to improve both the rotation itself and the usage of the rotation. Quote Link to comment
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