gavotteindmajor Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Well, first of all I saw this: The rolling motion that the teacher talks about: 1. Are there any other analogies you could make? 2. How should it feel when you are doing this correctly? how do you find the joint? 3. Could someone possible rephrase this ENTIRELY? I've watched the video over and over, and tried this over and over and I can't seem to get it! Quote Link to comment
Administrators Victoria Leigh Posted July 7, 2011 Administrators Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Karen, the problem with that video is that they explain the back leg, but they do not explain the change of body weight forward and upward on the supporting leg that makes this possible. The dancer does it, but they don't even mention it. When you see a dancer perfectly on balance in an arabesque, you will see the upper body really forward over the standing toes, but it is also moving upward, not tilted, not downward (unless it is a penché). Quote Link to comment
gavotteindmajor Posted July 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Thanks, that makes a bit more sense, but could you also describe what it should feel like in your legs, core, butt, etc? Do you have an alternate analogy for the "rolling foward? Quote Link to comment
Administrators Victoria Leigh Posted July 8, 2011 Administrators Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Rolling forward? Sorry, do not know what you mean by that. And, I'm afraid I cannot describe what it will feel like in your muscles, because everyone is very different. Quote Link to comment
Clara 76 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Karen, the teacher in the video is speaking anatomically about what happens to the femur as the leg is extended to the back. You needn't focus on the words, "rolling forward" because they have nothing to do with what you need to be working on in order to create arabesque. More detail: A different approach might be to explain that in the "bad" arabesque that she is showing, the hip is lifting which distorts the line and causes the crunching in the lower back. In the correct arabesque the rotators are engaged as well as the buttocks and the dancer is allowing her hip to open (NOT lift) in order to create the line. Read this 7 page thread for more information on arabesque: What is meant by "Strong Classical Line"? Quote Link to comment
gavotteindmajor Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Thanks, I think I like your explanations a bit more Quote Link to comment
esmeralda1210 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 In the video, the teacher talks about not focusing on turnout, but on opening the hips by rolling the hip joint forward in its socket. However, I'm having trouble understanding this part. I understand that you shouldn't just focus on the turnout from the start, but when then are you supposed to fully turn out the leg? Does she mean that you roll the bone forward when it is already turned out? Sorry if I'm not wording this very well, I can't quite explain it... The turnout part is what I don't quite understand. If someone could please explain this part? I understand the "rolling" of it, but am not sure about turnout. Thank you Quote Link to comment
Clara 76 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 What she means is simply what happens anatomically when the leg is lifted to the derrière. Focus on improving your pointe tendu derrière. Placement of the foot a terre with good rotation, usage of the buttocks and hamstrings, and excellent upper body lift-off will help your position en l'air! Focus on developing strong abdominal muscles. Focus on the movement of an arabesque- don't worry so much about what occurs to your hip joint. Arabesque is a forward, upward, spiraling, circular, movement! Quote Link to comment
gavotteindmajor Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 I think the little anatomy lesson is quite confusing. If a drivers-ed teacher started drilling me on electrical capacitance, thermodynamics and mechanical conservation of energy in a car's engine, I would surely be confused! esmerelda1210, maybe you should just ask your teacher for help. He/she may have a different approach to teaching the arabesque that may help you more. Quote Link to comment
esmeralda1210 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Okay thank you gavotteindmajor, I'll ask my teacher in class tomorrow Quote Link to comment
Clara 76 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 I agree, and fortunately, we don't need to know all the ins-and-outs of the hows in order to dance gorgeously!!! Quote Link to comment
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